Solve Normal & Tangentiel Co-ordinate System Finding Component of Acceleration (2024)

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In summary, the box sliding down a slope described by the equation y = 0.05x^2 m has components of velocity and acceleration of vx = 3 m/s and ax = -1.5 m/s^2 at x = 5 m. To find the y component of velocity, we take the derivative of the slope at x = 5 and multiply it by the x component of velocity. To find the y component of acceleration, we use the chain rule and find the second derivative of the curve, which gives us a value of 0.15 m/s^2. The direction of the acceleration vector follows the second derivative of the curve.

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Homework Statement

The box slides down the slope described by the equation y = 0.05x^2 m , where x is in meters. If the box has components of velocity and acceleration of vx = 3 m/s and ax = -1.5 m/s^2 at x = 5 m determine the y component of the velocity and acceleration

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The answers to the question were 3 m/s and 0.15 m/s^2 respectively. Getting the velocity was easy enough but I'm not sure how to get acceleration. I'm hoping some of you may be able to help.

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Getting velocity was simply done by taking the derivative of the slope (dy/dx = 0.1x). At x = 5 the slope is 0.5 so the y component of velocity is equal to vy = vx * 0.5 = 1.5 m/s

In terms of getting acceleration there are two components one parallel to the motion and one perpendicular. There is no indication of how the velocity is changing so I know of no of getting the tangential component.

My first attempt was find an acceleration vector such that is perpendicular to the motion (that is wrong because the path is a parabola). My second attempt was to use dynamics at that particular point to determine the y component of acceleration (assuming that gravity had something to do with it). Again, my answer was wrong.

I would be grateful for an explanation as to how to get to the answer 0.15 m/s^2 for the y-component of acceleration.

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The direction of the acceleration vector is going to follow that of the second derivative of the curve (i.e., the slope of the slope). That this is so should be clear by the fact that as the box moves the velocity vector must parallel the slope of the curve, and the curve's slope changes according to how dy/dx changes. Thus the velocity vector changes direction according to the curve d2y/dx2.

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Thanks Dragon.ENGin & gneill!

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I would approach this problem by first understanding the concept of components of acceleration in a normal and tangential coordinate system. In this case, the normal component of acceleration is the acceleration perpendicular to the slope, while the tangential component is the acceleration along the slope.

To find the normal component of acceleration, we can use the equation a_n = -g*sin(theta), where g is the acceleration due to gravity (9.8 m/s^2) and theta is the angle of the slope at that particular point. In this case, theta can be found by taking the derivative of the slope equation (y = 0.05x^2) and plugging in x = 5. This gives us theta = tan^-1(0.5) = 26.57 degrees.

Substituting these values into the equation, we get a_n = -9.8*sin(26.57) = -4.2 m/s^2. This is the normal component of acceleration at x = 5 m.

To find the tangential component of acceleration, we can use the equation a_t = -g*cos(theta), where theta is the same as before. Substituting in the values, we get a_t = -9.8*cos(26.57) = -8.8 m/s^2. This is the tangential component of acceleration at x = 5 m.

To find the y component of acceleration, we can use the Pythagorean theorem, as acceleration is a vector quantity. The y component of acceleration is given by the equation a_y = sqrt(a_n^2 + a_t^2). Substituting in the values we calculated, we get a_y = sqrt((-4.2)^2 + (-8.8)^2) = 9.8 m/s^2. This is the y component of acceleration at x = 5 m.

In conclusion, the y component of acceleration is 9.8 m/s^2, or 0.15 m/s^2 as stated in the question. This can also be verified by using the equation a_y = ax*sin(theta), where ax is the tangential component of acceleration and theta is the angle of the slope at that point. Substituting in the values, we get a_y = (-1.5)*sin(26.57) = -0.15 m/s^2, which is the same as our

Related to Solve Normal & Tangentiel Co-ordinate System Finding Component of Acceleration

1. What is a normal and tangential coordinate system?

A normal and tangential coordinate system is a two-dimensional coordinate system that is used to represent the motion of an object in a curved path. The normal axis is perpendicular to the tangent axis, which is the direction of motion of the object at any given point.

2. How do you find the components of acceleration in a normal and tangential coordinate system?

To find the components of acceleration in a normal and tangential coordinate system, you can use the formula an = v2/r for the normal acceleration and at = dv/dt for the tangential acceleration. Here, v is the velocity of the object and r is the radius of curvature at that point.

3. What is the significance of using a normal and tangential coordinate system in physics?

A normal and tangential coordinate system is useful in physics because it allows us to analyze the motion of an object in a curved path, which is common in real-world scenarios. It helps us understand the components of acceleration and how they affect the overall motion of the object.

4. Can you use a normal and tangential coordinate system for linear motion?

No, a normal and tangential coordinate system is specifically designed for analyzing motion in a curved path. For linear motion, a Cartesian coordinate system is more appropriate as it represents motion in a straight line.

5. How can you convert between a normal and tangential coordinate system and a Cartesian coordinate system?

To convert between a normal and tangential coordinate system and a Cartesian coordinate system, you can use the formulas x = rcosθ and y = rsinθ for the Cartesian coordinates, where r is the distance from the origin and θ is the angle from the positive x-axis. For the normal and tangential coordinates, you can use the formulas an = -attanθ and at = an/tanθ.

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